saddaddykiller
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does it really work? i heard u can soak them in bacon grease and them coyotes will eat the sponge and it kills them?
Do sponges really kill coyotes?
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patinlouisiana
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Found this on line for what it's worth?
"Coyotes gulp meat while dogs chew.
Take some ground beef, put it in a plastic trash bag, seal it (so nothing can get to it), and set it on your roof for a few days, making it good and rancid.
Get a sponge and cut it into small fist-sized pieces. Get some cotton twine (it is crucial that it be pure cotton). Wad the sponge up into as small a ball as you can. Wrap it in the cotton twine so that it remains small (like the inner part of a baseball).
Then get a clothes-pin (for you nose) and some latex gloves.
Retrieve the rancid meat. Put the clothes-pin on your nose (it will stink), put on the surgical gloves, and cover the cotton bound sponges with the meat, making little meat balls.
Dogs chew their food (make sure the final product is between a golf ball and baseball in size), so they won't swallow the cotton/sponge part.
Coyotes gulp the food down. Rancid meat and cotton will break down in the coyote's digestive tract. The sponge will not. End of coyote!
Or if you're rural enough, put some rancid meat in the yard at night, get one of those "rabbit squealer" tapes and play it. Sit on your roof with a .22 or .17 caliber. Whack 'em and stack 'em.
Spread the dead bodies of the coyotes out along your property line. The coyotes are not stupid. They will figure out fast enough that the cost associated with the "trade" in the lamb yard is a much higher "vig" they may be willing to pay. You'll have to do this for a while, and again every few years.
If you're not rural enough, an arrow works just fine, too! So do traps. If you use traps, you'll need to be willing to follow up with an arrow or a .22".
"Coyotes gulp meat while dogs chew.
Take some ground beef, put it in a plastic trash bag, seal it (so nothing can get to it), and set it on your roof for a few days, making it good and rancid.
Get a sponge and cut it into small fist-sized pieces. Get some cotton twine (it is crucial that it be pure cotton). Wad the sponge up into as small a ball as you can. Wrap it in the cotton twine so that it remains small (like the inner part of a baseball).
Then get a clothes-pin (for you nose) and some latex gloves.
Retrieve the rancid meat. Put the clothes-pin on your nose (it will stink), put on the surgical gloves, and cover the cotton bound sponges with the meat, making little meat balls.
Dogs chew their food (make sure the final product is between a golf ball and baseball in size), so they won't swallow the cotton/sponge part.
Coyotes gulp the food down. Rancid meat and cotton will break down in the coyote's digestive tract. The sponge will not. End of coyote!
Or if you're rural enough, put some rancid meat in the yard at night, get one of those "rabbit squealer" tapes and play it. Sit on your roof with a .22 or .17 caliber. Whack 'em and stack 'em.
Spread the dead bodies of the coyotes out along your property line. The coyotes are not stupid. They will figure out fast enough that the cost associated with the "trade" in the lamb yard is a much higher "vig" they may be willing to pay. You'll have to do this for a while, and again every few years.
If you're not rural enough, an arrow works just fine, too! So do traps. If you use traps, you'll need to be willing to follow up with an arrow or a .22".
ufgators68
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That's not cool. I hate a coyote as much as anyone else but that is just too much suffering for anything to have to endure.
joshua99ta
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well... I like the idea.. I just couldnt deal with messing with roton meat...
LazyGhost
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Ive got some yotes and i gotta work on em somehow. Will figure out something to do after deer season.
buckcrazy
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ive got myself a yote problem to. The man next door had his son trap 96 of them 2 years ago on a tract of land about 450 acres. Dont know how true it is, i didnt see pelts or pics but I didnt hear not one of them last year so i figured he put a hurting on them. Starting to hear them suckers every morning again and want to get rid of them. Id like to try to trap them but I have never done it before and dont know the regs or season. Wouldnt even know where to begin....
glenn
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I understand why Saddaddy was asking, I hunt across the road from him. Monday night I heard 4 different packs howling and 3 of them were on his side of the road. I have gotten lots of pictures of yotes and bobcats this year. I wouldn't use sponges, but something needs to be done about them.
saddaddykiller
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everytime i am at the farm in ms....every single night i hear alot of coyotes...i saw 4 coyotes during the day while on the tractor doing foodplots a while back.....someone i know who hunts in la said the game wardens TOLD THEM to do the sponge thing to kill the coyotes...thats y i was asking
FireCloud
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I guess I would have made a good operative for Blackwater or the CIA for "waterboarding" terrorist suspects. I have no problem with the concepts of using torture or for killing things that need to be tortured or killed. Nuisance critters fall into that category. I have an article that discusses those concepts which I posted on another site but which is a little too far afield for posting here. So I will only say a little about this subject here. But as for me, I'd be happy to personally waterboard every single terrorist we capture if it helps us. The idea that we are somehow being "cruel" when we torture people who behead our folks and hang them from bridges is lost on me.
Before I deal with the idea of feeding sponges to coyotes, let's talk about "torture" and cruelty for a minute shall we? The idea that all living things are or should be exempt from being tortured or killed is NOT one I subscribe to. It's a concept that the anti-hunting groups champion however with their "right to life" concepts being advocated for animals. And it is the basis for the laws these groups advocate for "cruelty to animal" laws that make law abiding citizens into criminals for committing acts they see as cruel.
Stop for a minute and think about torture as it applies to how we deal with nuisances and pests. Personally, I smile when I hear a mouse trap go off as I know the brains of a despicable pest have been smushed flat by a piece of wire tortuously embedded in his skull. If I get to the trap in time, I can usually watch the critter squirm as he dies a painful death. Do I care if the mouse is in excrutiating pain? Nope. Not one bit. In fact, I enjoy killing them. I'm not a guy who cares to "harmlessly" trap a mouse in a non-lethal trap. Give me the wire spring kind of trap so I can enjoy hearing the trap crush the mouse's skull. One anti-hunting group that backed last year's felony animal cruelty law in Mississippi protested the killing of rats. I'm pretty sure they would not want a mouse or rat killed by a wire trap.
I use similar methods for snakes I want to get rid of. I am not one who is going to get a snake catcher to safely pick up the snake, then sack the creature up to be harmlessly relocated elsewhere. Nope, not me. I'm going to chop his head off with a hoe or blow holes in him with a gun. For all snakes I murder, I always burn them. If they are not dead due to the aforementioned treatment, then they get burned alive. And I enjoy watching them suffer in the fire. Do I care if the snake is writhing in pain? Not at all.
And the list goes on and on. I take sadistic pleasure in spraying roaches with roach spray containing harsh chemicals that eats through their skins. I enjoy watching the roach suffer. It does not bother me a bit. In fact, typically I plop the roaches over in the toilet, have fun giving them a little "shower," then flush them down the "water slide."
Wasps are even more fun to tortue before killing them. I dated a girl once who enjoyed spraying hair spray on every wasp she saw in the house. Give it a try! The wasp works overtime trying to make his wings work but the hair spray stiffens as it dries and the wasp always loses the battle. I enjoy watching them struggle for a while before I kill them. Yes, that is completely sadistic. I admit that. But I never said I believe that animals have a "right to life" or any rights to not be tortured by humans. Before you say it's cruel to do those kinds of things, ask how many of you kill mice, rats, snakes, wasps, roaches, or for that matter a host of garden bugs without even thinking about it and not worrying about whether or not the critter suffers?
With garden pests, humans are especially cruel. Think about it. The bug or insect is born in the garden and is merely trying to find food to survive when it eats your veggies. When you apply pesticides to your plants you coat the food supply of the pesky insects with poison. That gives the bug the "no-win" choice of either eating poisoned plant material and dying or not eating anything and starving to death. Either way, the bug dies a slow death. Unless of course you come along and simply smush his guts out.
Nearly all poisons we apply to kill things we don't want around us, whether it is moles, fire ants, or termites, etc. all kill the creatures with a slow process. Under the theory that death is never a pleasant occurance for the thing being killed, are we not, as humans, being "cruel" to the things we poison or otherwise maliciously destroy?
My answer to that question is Yes, we are indeed being malicious toward those things we purposefully kill. I can live with that idea and not be bothered by it at all. Being the type person I am, I can even enjoy ridding the planet of many things that I don't want around by any method that works, whether someone thinks it is cruel or not. That would include sponges in the stomach of a coyote. To me, it does not matter how you kill the creature, it is still dead either way. Shooting coyotes, wild hogs, crows, fox, vermin, or anything else that is a nuisance is not an issue as far as I am concerned. Nor is poisoning them or getting rid of them in any other way that works. Some of those methods of getting the results you desire, as is waterboarding terrorists, may be illegal in some places simply because people have succeeded in getting them outlawed. But it does not mean the techniques are not good methods.
As far as I know, feeding sponges to yotes is not illegal. I don't even think you need to use rancid meat. Fresh meat would work just as well. If it is not illegal, then I would suggest giving it a try. We sure don't need to protect the yotes! And if you don't have the stomach for the "cruelty" of feeding a yote a sponge in order to kill him, just give me a call. I'd be happy to help get rid of the yotes any way possible!
Before I deal with the idea of feeding sponges to coyotes, let's talk about "torture" and cruelty for a minute shall we? The idea that all living things are or should be exempt from being tortured or killed is NOT one I subscribe to. It's a concept that the anti-hunting groups champion however with their "right to life" concepts being advocated for animals. And it is the basis for the laws these groups advocate for "cruelty to animal" laws that make law abiding citizens into criminals for committing acts they see as cruel.
Stop for a minute and think about torture as it applies to how we deal with nuisances and pests. Personally, I smile when I hear a mouse trap go off as I know the brains of a despicable pest have been smushed flat by a piece of wire tortuously embedded in his skull. If I get to the trap in time, I can usually watch the critter squirm as he dies a painful death. Do I care if the mouse is in excrutiating pain? Nope. Not one bit. In fact, I enjoy killing them. I'm not a guy who cares to "harmlessly" trap a mouse in a non-lethal trap. Give me the wire spring kind of trap so I can enjoy hearing the trap crush the mouse's skull. One anti-hunting group that backed last year's felony animal cruelty law in Mississippi protested the killing of rats. I'm pretty sure they would not want a mouse or rat killed by a wire trap.
I use similar methods for snakes I want to get rid of. I am not one who is going to get a snake catcher to safely pick up the snake, then sack the creature up to be harmlessly relocated elsewhere. Nope, not me. I'm going to chop his head off with a hoe or blow holes in him with a gun. For all snakes I murder, I always burn them. If they are not dead due to the aforementioned treatment, then they get burned alive. And I enjoy watching them suffer in the fire. Do I care if the snake is writhing in pain? Not at all.
And the list goes on and on. I take sadistic pleasure in spraying roaches with roach spray containing harsh chemicals that eats through their skins. I enjoy watching the roach suffer. It does not bother me a bit. In fact, typically I plop the roaches over in the toilet, have fun giving them a little "shower," then flush them down the "water slide."
Wasps are even more fun to tortue before killing them. I dated a girl once who enjoyed spraying hair spray on every wasp she saw in the house. Give it a try! The wasp works overtime trying to make his wings work but the hair spray stiffens as it dries and the wasp always loses the battle. I enjoy watching them struggle for a while before I kill them. Yes, that is completely sadistic. I admit that. But I never said I believe that animals have a "right to life" or any rights to not be tortured by humans. Before you say it's cruel to do those kinds of things, ask how many of you kill mice, rats, snakes, wasps, roaches, or for that matter a host of garden bugs without even thinking about it and not worrying about whether or not the critter suffers?
With garden pests, humans are especially cruel. Think about it. The bug or insect is born in the garden and is merely trying to find food to survive when it eats your veggies. When you apply pesticides to your plants you coat the food supply of the pesky insects with poison. That gives the bug the "no-win" choice of either eating poisoned plant material and dying or not eating anything and starving to death. Either way, the bug dies a slow death. Unless of course you come along and simply smush his guts out.
Nearly all poisons we apply to kill things we don't want around us, whether it is moles, fire ants, or termites, etc. all kill the creatures with a slow process. Under the theory that death is never a pleasant occurance for the thing being killed, are we not, as humans, being "cruel" to the things we poison or otherwise maliciously destroy?
My answer to that question is Yes, we are indeed being malicious toward those things we purposefully kill. I can live with that idea and not be bothered by it at all. Being the type person I am, I can even enjoy ridding the planet of many things that I don't want around by any method that works, whether someone thinks it is cruel or not. That would include sponges in the stomach of a coyote. To me, it does not matter how you kill the creature, it is still dead either way. Shooting coyotes, wild hogs, crows, fox, vermin, or anything else that is a nuisance is not an issue as far as I am concerned. Nor is poisoning them or getting rid of them in any other way that works. Some of those methods of getting the results you desire, as is waterboarding terrorists, may be illegal in some places simply because people have succeeded in getting them outlawed. But it does not mean the techniques are not good methods.
As far as I know, feeding sponges to yotes is not illegal. I don't even think you need to use rancid meat. Fresh meat would work just as well. If it is not illegal, then I would suggest giving it a try. We sure don't need to protect the yotes! And if you don't have the stomach for the "cruelty" of feeding a yote a sponge in order to kill him, just give me a call. I'd be happy to help get rid of the yotes any way possible!
saddaddykiller
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i agree with firecloud....better to do something than nothing...not only can it help out us but also the surrounding properties.....dont have time for traps, dont have time to hunt them....but do have time to put sponges out....the deer and other eatable animals are not gonna eat the sponges so it aint hurting anything...
ufgators68
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Or you could let some coyote hunters have the run of the place during the summer.
dublelung
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YES it will kill them dead! Don't take as long as you would think either. I prefer trapping them though.
saddaddykiller
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dublelung":1mm350ma said:
good to hear...thanks
